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	<title>Comments on: At SIGGRAPH in L.A., Watching the Future of Computing Unfold</title>
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	<description>Edge Case, Community Builder, Tinkerer, and Teacher</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Art Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, 2008 a turning point, SIGGRAPH '08 Larrabee paper, GDC '08 multi-core .ppt's, GameFest too, ... and F#
The word is getting out, this ain't gonna be your fathers' PC.

Seems multi-core issues (Larrabee) is driven by the CG Game playing young male scions, testosterone poisoning; they want it all and they want it now.
I guess Dad just wants faster SQL, and is willing to wait ...

When? Let the guessing games begin, 2009? 2010? 2011? Later?
If I'm Intel I'm hoping sooner, guess MS too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, 2008 a turning point, SIGGRAPH &#8216;08 Larrabee paper, GDC &#8216;08 multi-core .ppt&#8217;s, GameFest too, &#8230; and F#<br />
The word is getting out, this ain&#8217;t gonna be your fathers&#8217; PC.</p>
<p>Seems multi-core issues (Larrabee) is driven by the CG Game playing young male scions, testosterone poisoning; they want it all and they want it now.<br />
I guess Dad just wants faster SQL, and is willing to wait &#8230;</p>
<p>When? Let the guessing games begin, 2009? 2010? 2011? Later?<br />
If I&#8217;m Intel I&#8217;m hoping sooner, guess MS too.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent question.

I suspect that the Intel cores will be more beefy, but if my CS 333 memory serves --which is spotty at best for us old fogies-- each core can still only actually perform one calculation at a time. Context switching makes it look like more than one happens simultaneously. 

I will certainly do some research with people that do know hardware to see what the functional differences are between x86 cores and geforce cores. I will let you know anything I can share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent question.</p>
<p>I suspect that the Intel cores will be more beefy, but if my CS 333 memory serves &#8211;which is spotty at best for us old fogies&#8211; each core can still only actually perform one calculation at a time. Context switching makes it look like more than one happens simultaneously. </p>
<p>I will certainly do some research with people that do know hardware to see what the functional differences are between x86 cores and geforce cores. I will let you know anything I can share.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Bancroft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Bancroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, you make some good points. I don't understand all of the hardware, either, but one thing I've been trying to get my head around is what the difference is between what Nvidia considers a core, and what Intel considers a core. Or more specifically, what can one do that the other can't, and vice versa? Do you have any good info you can point me to on this, so I can understand better? I know it's all pretty new/future stuff, but it's exciting, either way.

And like you said, bring on the competition! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, you make some good points. I don&#8217;t understand all of the hardware, either, but one thing I&#8217;ve been trying to get my head around is what the difference is between what Nvidia considers a core, and what Intel considers a core. Or more specifically, what can one do that the other can&#8217;t, and vice versa? Do you have any good info you can point me to on this, so I can understand better? I know it&#8217;s all pretty new/future stuff, but it&#8217;s exciting, either way.</p>
<p>And like you said, bring on the competition! <img src='http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that massive parallelism is the next great leap for computing. Think about the benefits of real time rendering of CAT scans, CGI scenes, CAD designs. All these tasks that currently take either thousands of dollars in specialized equipment or many hours of rendering time (sometimes both).

I don't claim to understand the underlying hardware involved, but it seems to me that NVIDIA is already doing what Larabee is talking about. Are 24-32 x86 processor cores going to be able to compete with the 480 cores in the latest Quadro release? Or the 200+ on the current desktop GPUs? My personal opinion? I hope so. I have always believed in the power of real competition for improving technology and, in turn, the common man's experience. Of course, I am a bit motivated to hope that NVIDIA comes out on top, but I say, "Bring on the competition!"

From the software viewpoint, which I understand well, I think that the real success will need to be in the API that we Software Engineers are given for using these GPUs. I don't want to have to know the intimate details of how all these linked cores do their work. I just want to be able to assign them a bundle of computations and see the results in an easily-integratable manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that massive parallelism is the next great leap for computing. Think about the benefits of real time rendering of CAT scans, CGI scenes, CAD designs. All these tasks that currently take either thousands of dollars in specialized equipment or many hours of rendering time (sometimes both).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t claim to understand the underlying hardware involved, but it seems to me that NVIDIA is already doing what Larabee is talking about. Are 24-32 x86 processor cores going to be able to compete with the 480 cores in the latest Quadro release? Or the 200+ on the current desktop GPUs? My personal opinion? I hope so. I have always believed in the power of real competition for improving technology and, in turn, the common man&#8217;s experience. Of course, I am a bit motivated to hope that NVIDIA comes out on top, but I say, &#8220;Bring on the competition!&#8221;</p>
<p>From the software viewpoint, which I understand well, I think that the real success will need to be in the API that we Software Engineers are given for using these GPUs. I don&#8217;t want to have to know the intimate details of how all these linked cores do their work. I just want to be able to assign them a bundle of computations and see the results in an easily-integratable manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Jmartens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jmartens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If thats the future, sign me up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If thats the future, sign me up!</p>
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		<title>By: http://www.1nova.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;With the announcement of multiple core add on cards atSiggraph, the claim is that the future of computing is unfolding as we watch. While this is true in some sense, I see it as going BACK to what we started out doing in the first place.  Multiple cores has been obvious for years if not decades. A lot of earlier&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->With the announcement of multiple core add on cards atSiggraph, the claim is that the future of computing is unfolding as we watch. While this is true in some sense, I see it as going BACK to what we started out doing in the first place.  Multiple cores has been obvious for years if not decades. A lot of earlier<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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