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		<title>By: Why &#8220;Social Media&#8221; is Compelling at Josh Bancroft&#8217;s TinyScreenfuls.com</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-74856</link>
		<dc:creator>Why &#8220;Social Media&#8221; is Compelling at Josh Bancroft&#8217;s TinyScreenfuls.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] always put that term in quotes, because of my uneasy relationship with it, but we have to call this bunch of tools [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] always put that term in quotes, because of my uneasy relationship with it, but we have to call this bunch of tools [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Annie</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-67994</link>
		<dc:creator>Annie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just the &quot;web&quot; and what you do with it.  &quot;Pipes&quot; and &quot;interwebby&quot; are my prefered terms...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just the &#8220;web&#8221; and what you do with it.  &#8220;Pipes&#8221; and &#8220;interwebby&#8221; are my prefered terms&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Greenstein</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-67513</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Greenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 20:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is Media something you consume? For me, it is something I produce and consume. For the generation younger then I am, it is something for them to watch, share, remix, etc. By definition most of the 30 and under crowd don&#039;t differentiate social and media, but for many of my clients, including those in &#039;traditional&#039; (for lack of a better term for newspapers, tv and magazine) media, they seem to like the modifier for media. I have had this discussion with Steve a few times. We may be sick of it, but clients are always looking to understand the thing that is different than what they already do. My $.02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Media something you consume? For me, it is something I produce and consume. For the generation younger then I am, it is something for them to watch, share, remix, etc. By definition most of the 30 and under crowd don&#8217;t differentiate social and media, but for many of my clients, including those in &#8216;traditional&#8217; (for lack of a better term for newspapers, tv and magazine) media, they seem to like the modifier for media. I have had this discussion with Steve a few times. We may be sick of it, but clients are always looking to understand the thing that is different than what they already do. My $.02</p>
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		<title>By: I Too Hate The Term &#8216;Social Media&#8217; - But Here&#8217;s Is A Definition &#124; Screensumer</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-67308</link>
		<dc:creator>I Too Hate The Term &#8216;Social Media&#8217; - But Here&#8217;s Is A Definition &#124; Screensumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Josh Bancroft is starting to hate the term social media. I too feel like John, that it&#8217;s the most overused and abused term these days. Well, then as an Internet Professional with 11 years of experience, can I attempt to define it myself. At least I can try. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Josh Bancroft is starting to hate the term social media. I too feel like John, that it&#8217;s the most overused and abused term these days. Well, then as an Internet Professional with 11 years of experience, can I attempt to define it myself. At least I can try. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Bernoff</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-67302</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Bernoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 09:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always try to call them social APPLICATIONS and not social MEDIA.

It&#039;s not media. Media is something you consume. It gets ads (typially) based on that consumption.

Applications are something you participate in.

See: http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2008/02/recession-comme.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always try to call them social APPLICATIONS and not social MEDIA.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not media. Media is something you consume. It gets ads (typially) based on that consumption.</p>
<p>Applications are something you participate in.</p>
<p>See: <a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2008/02/recession-comme.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2008/02/recession-comme.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh Bancroft</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-67263</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Bancroft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, Steve Rubel really brings the flow and the commenters. Thanks for the tweet, Steve! :-)

@Jonathan - The terminology is spreading beyond the insiders/influencers, though. That&#039;s how these things work. We influence how other people use these terms. Three years ago, it was brand new and unique to see a PR guy get up in front of a crowd of bloggers, and talk about influence (thinking of Steve Rubel at Gnomedex 2005). Now, you can&#039;t swing a dead cat in the PR/marketing world without hitting someone willing to preach to you the ideals of &quot;social media&quot;. Sure, it&#039;s not mainstream in the sense that a gas station attendant in the middle of Arkansas could tell you about it, but a few years ago, neither was email, the web, and IM.

These things start with the early adopters, and spread outwards from there through influencers. That&#039;s how something becomes mainstream (mutating along the way, of course). That&#039;s what I see happening here. I&#039;m hoping to influence that mutation to get a more precise, useful, and less annoying lexicon to use when talking about this stuff.

And yes, I realize that such a wish is probably hopeless. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, Steve Rubel really brings the flow and the commenters. Thanks for the tweet, Steve! <img src='http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Jonathan &#8211; The terminology is spreading beyond the insiders/influencers, though. That&#8217;s how these things work. We influence how other people use these terms. Three years ago, it was brand new and unique to see a PR guy get up in front of a crowd of bloggers, and talk about influence (thinking of Steve Rubel at Gnomedex 2005). Now, you can&#8217;t swing a dead cat in the PR/marketing world without hitting someone willing to preach to you the ideals of &#8220;social media&#8221;. Sure, it&#8217;s not mainstream in the sense that a gas station attendant in the middle of Arkansas could tell you about it, but a few years ago, neither was email, the web, and IM.</p>
<p>These things start with the early adopters, and spread outwards from there through influencers. That&#8217;s how something becomes mainstream (mutating along the way, of course). That&#8217;s what I see happening here. I&#8217;m hoping to influence that mutation to get a more precise, useful, and less annoying lexicon to use when talking about this stuff.</p>
<p>And yes, I realize that such a wish is probably hopeless. <img src='http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dennis McDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-67262</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha! I tried getting clients to give up the term &quot;web 2.0&quot; and that was impossible. The problem is, you have to realize that the &quot;social media insiders&quot; speak differently than regular folks such as paying cuatomers. 

I predict that when we come up with a better term for &quot;social media&quot; we&#039;ll still be explaining the old term next year even though we&#039;ve moved to something else. 

Whatever new term we propose, though, could we please make it sexier and more serious sounding than terms like &quot;blog&quot; or &quot;Twitter&quot; or &quot;wiki&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! I tried getting clients to give up the term &#8220;web 2.0&#8243; and that was impossible. The problem is, you have to realize that the &#8220;social media insiders&#8221; speak differently than regular folks such as paying cuatomers. </p>
<p>I predict that when we come up with a better term for &#8220;social media&#8221; we&#8217;ll still be explaining the old term next year even though we&#8217;ve moved to something else. </p>
<p>Whatever new term we propose, though, could we please make it sexier and more serious sounding than terms like &#8220;blog&#8221; or &#8220;Twitter&#8221; or &#8220;wiki&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Woodruff</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-67261</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Woodruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been wrestling with the same issue. Suggested, on my blog, Share Media (vs. Tell Media).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been wrestling with the same issue. Suggested, on my blog, Share Media (vs. Tell Media).</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Joseph</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-67260</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only place that people are getting sick of the term &quot;social media&quot; is in the echo chamber of the early adopters. 85% of America couldn&#039;t give you any answer as to what &quot;social media&quot; is and I&#039;d be willing to bet that 40%-50% of the folks in this country haven&#039;t even heard the term &quot;social media&quot; as of yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only place that people are getting sick of the term &#8220;social media&#8221; is in the echo chamber of the early adopters. 85% of America couldn&#8217;t give you any answer as to what &#8220;social media&#8221; is and I&#8217;d be willing to bet that 40%-50% of the folks in this country haven&#8217;t even heard the term &#8220;social media&#8221; as of yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Merell Ligons</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/comment-page-1/#comment-67259</link>
		<dc:creator>Merell Ligons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way.  Everything that has a url is being marketed as &quot;Social Media&quot;.  Once Web 3.0 comes out then we&#039;ll forget all about the term &quot;Social Media&quot;, the new term will be &quot;Experiential Media&quot; or something of the sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way.  Everything that has a url is being marketed as &#8220;Social Media&#8221;.  Once Web 3.0 comes out then we&#8217;ll forget all about the term &#8220;Social Media&#8221;, the new term will be &#8220;Experiential Media&#8221; or something of the sort.</p>
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