Comments on: I’m Starting to Hate the Term “Social Media” http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/ The Internets are Serious Business. We must never forget that Solemn Responsibility. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:26:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Why “Social Media” is Compelling at Josh Bancroft’s TinyScreenfuls.com http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/#comment-74856 Why “Social Media” is Compelling at Josh Bancroft’s TinyScreenfuls.com Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:20:07 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/?p=1935#comment-74856 [...] always put that term in quotes, because of my uneasy relationship with it, but we have to call this bunch of tools [...] [...] always put that term in quotes, because of my uneasy relationship with it, but we have to call this bunch of tools [...]

]]> By: Annie http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/#comment-67994 Annie Mon, 19 May 2008 18:47:52 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/?p=1935#comment-67994 It's just the "web" and what you do with it. "Pipes" and "interwebby" are my prefered terms... It’s just the “web” and what you do with it. “Pipes” and “interwebby” are my prefered terms…

]]> By: Howard Greenstein http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/#comment-67513 Howard Greenstein Mon, 12 May 2008 20:50:44 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/?p=1935#comment-67513 Why is Media something you consume? For me, it is something I produce and consume. For the generation younger then I am, it is something for them to watch, share, remix, etc. By definition most of the 30 and under crowd don't differentiate social and media, but for many of my clients, including those in 'traditional' (for lack of a better term for newspapers, tv and magazine) media, they seem to like the modifier for media. I have had this discussion with Steve a few times. We may be sick of it, but clients are always looking to understand the thing that is different than what they already do. My $.02 Why is Media something you consume? For me, it is something I produce and consume. For the generation younger then I am, it is something for them to watch, share, remix, etc. By definition most of the 30 and under crowd don’t differentiate social and media, but for many of my clients, including those in ‘traditional’ (for lack of a better term for newspapers, tv and magazine) media, they seem to like the modifier for media. I have had this discussion with Steve a few times. We may be sick of it, but clients are always looking to understand the thing that is different than what they already do. My $.02

]]> By: I Too Hate The Term ‘Social Media’ - But Here’s Is A Definition | Screensumer http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/#comment-67308 I Too Hate The Term ‘Social Media’ - But Here’s Is A Definition | Screensumer Sat, 10 May 2008 14:40:41 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/?p=1935#comment-67308 [...] Josh Bancroft is starting to hate the term social media. I too feel like John, that it’s the most overused and abused term these days. Well, then as an Internet Professional with 11 years of experience, can I attempt to define it myself. At least I can try. [...] [...] Josh Bancroft is starting to hate the term social media. I too feel like John, that it’s the most overused and abused term these days. Well, then as an Internet Professional with 11 years of experience, can I attempt to define it myself. At least I can try. [...]

]]> By: Josh Bernoff http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/#comment-67302 Josh Bernoff Sat, 10 May 2008 09:33:20 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/?p=1935#comment-67302 I always try to call them social APPLICATIONS and not social MEDIA. It's not media. Media is something you consume. It gets ads (typially) based on that consumption. Applications are something you participate in. See: http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2008/02/recession-comme.html I always try to call them social APPLICATIONS and not social MEDIA.

It’s not media. Media is something you consume. It gets ads (typially) based on that consumption.

Applications are something you participate in.

See: http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2008/02/recession-comme.html

]]> By: Josh Bancroft http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/#comment-67263 Josh Bancroft Fri, 09 May 2008 21:27:28 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/?p=1935#comment-67263 Man, Steve Rubel really brings the flow and the commenters. Thanks for the tweet, Steve! :-) @Jonathan - The terminology is spreading beyond the insiders/influencers, though. That's how these things work. We influence how other people use these terms. Three years ago, it was brand new and unique to see a PR guy get up in front of a crowd of bloggers, and talk about influence (thinking of Steve Rubel at Gnomedex 2005). Now, you can't swing a dead cat in the PR/marketing world without hitting someone willing to preach to you the ideals of "social media". Sure, it's not mainstream in the sense that a gas station attendant in the middle of Arkansas could tell you about it, but a few years ago, neither was email, the web, and IM. These things start with the early adopters, and spread outwards from there through influencers. That's how something becomes mainstream (mutating along the way, of course). That's what I see happening here. I'm hoping to influence that mutation to get a more precise, useful, and less annoying lexicon to use when talking about this stuff. And yes, I realize that such a wish is probably hopeless. :-) Man, Steve Rubel really brings the flow and the commenters. Thanks for the tweet, Steve! :-)

@Jonathan - The terminology is spreading beyond the insiders/influencers, though. That’s how these things work. We influence how other people use these terms. Three years ago, it was brand new and unique to see a PR guy get up in front of a crowd of bloggers, and talk about influence (thinking of Steve Rubel at Gnomedex 2005). Now, you can’t swing a dead cat in the PR/marketing world without hitting someone willing to preach to you the ideals of “social media”. Sure, it’s not mainstream in the sense that a gas station attendant in the middle of Arkansas could tell you about it, but a few years ago, neither was email, the web, and IM.

These things start with the early adopters, and spread outwards from there through influencers. That’s how something becomes mainstream (mutating along the way, of course). That’s what I see happening here. I’m hoping to influence that mutation to get a more precise, useful, and less annoying lexicon to use when talking about this stuff.

And yes, I realize that such a wish is probably hopeless. :-)

]]> By: Dennis McDonald http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/#comment-67262 Dennis McDonald Fri, 09 May 2008 21:17:08 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/?p=1935#comment-67262 Ha! I tried getting clients to give up the term "web 2.0" and that was impossible. The problem is, you have to realize that the "social media insiders" speak differently than regular folks such as paying cuatomers. I predict that when we come up with a better term for "social media" we'll still be explaining the old term next year even though we've moved to something else. Whatever new term we propose, though, could we please make it sexier and more serious sounding than terms like "blog" or "Twitter" or "wiki"? Ha! I tried getting clients to give up the term “web 2.0″ and that was impossible. The problem is, you have to realize that the “social media insiders” speak differently than regular folks such as paying cuatomers.

I predict that when we come up with a better term for “social media” we’ll still be explaining the old term next year even though we’ve moved to something else.

Whatever new term we propose, though, could we please make it sexier and more serious sounding than terms like “blog” or “Twitter” or “wiki”?

]]> By: Steve Woodruff http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/#comment-67261 Steve Woodruff Fri, 09 May 2008 21:09:46 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/?p=1935#comment-67261 Been wrestling with the same issue. Suggested, on my blog, Share Media (vs. Tell Media). Been wrestling with the same issue. Suggested, on my blog, Share Media (vs. Tell Media).

]]> By: Jonathan Joseph http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/#comment-67260 Jonathan Joseph Fri, 09 May 2008 21:07:54 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/?p=1935#comment-67260 The only place that people are getting sick of the term "social media" is in the echo chamber of the early adopters. 85% of America couldn't give you any answer as to what "social media" is and I'd be willing to bet that 40%-50% of the folks in this country haven't even heard the term "social media" as of yet. The only place that people are getting sick of the term “social media” is in the echo chamber of the early adopters. 85% of America couldn’t give you any answer as to what “social media” is and I’d be willing to bet that 40%-50% of the folks in this country haven’t even heard the term “social media” as of yet.

]]> By: Merell Ligons http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2008/05/im-starting-to-hate-the-term-social-media/#comment-67259 Merell Ligons Fri, 09 May 2008 21:05:44 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/?p=1935#comment-67259 I feel the same way. Everything that has a url is being marketed as "Social Media". Once Web 3.0 comes out then we'll forget all about the term "Social Media", the new term will be "Experiential Media" or something of the sort. I feel the same way. Everything that has a url is being marketed as “Social Media”. Once Web 3.0 comes out then we’ll forget all about the term “Social Media”, the new term will be “Experiential Media” or something of the sort.

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