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	<title>Comments on: Reinventing the Mobile Web with Dave Winer</title>
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	<description>Huge iPhone and web geek. Selfish, Obsessive, and Easily Distracted.</description>
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		<title>By: jkOnTheRun: blogging</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer/comment-page-1/#comment-60848</link>
		<dc:creator>jkOnTheRun: blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] few days as he&#039;s working on the &quot;river of news&quot; concept now that he has a Blackberry. Josh Bancroft points out astutely that mobile content aggregation is nothing new; I&#039;d agree and I think that Dave is kicking tires right now as he demonstrates the mobile river [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] few days as he&#8217;s working on the &quot;river of news&quot; concept now that he has a Blackberry. Josh Bancroft points out astutely that mobile content aggregation is nothing new; I&#8217;d agree and I think that Dave is kicking tires right now as he demonstrates the mobile river [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: DSC07360 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer/comment-page-1/#comment-47265</link>
		<dc:creator>DSC07360 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] : news.bbc.co.uk/text_only.stm  Nothing new here. What&#039;s up with Dave ? Tired ?  More on this at : www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web...  Posted 13 months ago. ( permalink [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] : news.bbc.co.uk/text_only.stm  Nothing new here. What&#8217;s up with Dave ? Tired ?  More on this at : <a href="http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web.." rel="nofollow">http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web..</a>.  Posted 13 months ago. ( permalink [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The river of news</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer/comment-page-1/#comment-28685</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The river of news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] More on this at : http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] More on this at : <a href="http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer</a> [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: shahine.com/omar/ - Digg River... Big Deal</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer/comment-page-1/#comment-8373</link>
		<dc:creator>shahine.com/omar/ - Digg River... Big Deal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 05:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] another Microsoft blogger        &#160;Tuesday, 12 September 2006  &#171;&#160;iTunes 7 &#124; Main &#124;  Digg River... Big Deal  Everyone is going gaga over Digg River, and River this, and general attention to something that&#039;snot news. For the longest time it&#039;s been in every web site&#039;s power to provide a mobile friendly version of their web page, it&#039;s just that no one has cared to do so (or if they have, you don&#039;t know about it cause typing www.somesite.com usually doesn&#039;t give you the mobile version on your phone). Dave Winer recently got a Blackberry and what&#039;s old is new, except now the spot light is pointing out the fact that in the past few years, nothing has changed the fact that most sites are still not readable or discoverable from a mobile device. Read this for a good synopsis of the exact situation. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] another Microsoft blogger        &nbsp;Tuesday, 12 September 2006  &laquo;&nbsp;iTunes 7 | Main |  Digg River&#8230; Big Deal  Everyone is going gaga over Digg River, and River this, and general attention to something that&#8217;snot news. For the longest time it&#8217;s been in every web site&#8217;s power to provide a mobile friendly version of their web page, it&#8217;s just that no one has cared to do so (or if they have, you don&#8217;t know about it cause typing <a href="http://www.somesite.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.somesite.com</a> usually doesn&#8217;t give you the mobile version on your phone). Dave Winer recently got a Blackberry and what&#8217;s old is new, except now the spot light is pointing out the fact that in the past few years, nothing has changed the fact that most sites are still not readable or discoverable from a mobile device. Read this for a good synopsis of the exact situation. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JustJohnny</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer/comment-page-1/#comment-7793</link>
		<dc:creator>JustJohnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I agree, to some extent, that this isn&#039;t new.  What is new is Dave&#039;s approach, specifically with news feeds, to present easily read content.  I find his method is clean and produces, for me, content that I can digest on the go --without all the fuss of &lt;i&gt;fancy&lt;/i&gt; formatting.  Even the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/gwt/n&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;google x-verter&lt;/a&gt; leaves in some formatting.  Bottom line is that the extra adds up in bandwidth strain, thumb strain and even eye strain for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I agree, to some extent, that this isn&#8217;t new.  What is new is Dave&#8217;s approach, specifically with news feeds, to present easily read content.  I find his method is clean and produces, for me, content that I can digest on the go &#8211;without all the fuss of <i>fancy</i> formatting.  Even the <a href="http://www.google.com/gwt/n" rel="nofollow">google x-verter</a> leaves in some formatting.  Bottom line is that the extra adds up in bandwidth strain, thumb strain and even eye strain for me.</p>
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		<title>By: since1968</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer/comment-page-1/#comment-7756</link>
		<dc:creator>since1968</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh. That&#039;s &quot;its&quot; reach, not &quot;it&#039;s&quot; reach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh. That&#8217;s &#8220;its&#8221; reach, not &#8220;it&#8217;s&#8221; reach.</p>
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		<title>By: since1968</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer/comment-page-1/#comment-7755</link>
		<dc:creator>since1968</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s ironic is that I can&#039;t even load the nytimesriver.com site on my PEBL. I&#039;m restricted to T-Mobile&#039;s &quot;t-zones,&quot; but all this means in essence is that the built in browser won&#039;t load HTML. If the doctype is WML or XHTML Mobile--which is what google serves--pages load just fine. Not only is the river idea *not* new, it&#039;s reach is not as great as already existing services.

Unless I&#039;m missing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s ironic is that I can&#8217;t even load the nytimesriver.com site on my PEBL. I&#8217;m restricted to T-Mobile&#8217;s &#8220;t-zones,&#8221; but all this means in essence is that the built in browser won&#8217;t load HTML. If the doctype is WML or XHTML Mobile&#8211;which is what google serves&#8211;pages load just fine. Not only is the river idea *not* new, it&#8217;s reach is not as great as already existing services.</p>
<p>Unless I&#8217;m missing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Harold J. Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer/comment-page-1/#comment-7600</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold J. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we love this drama so?

Without it, software development would be *so* dull...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we love this drama so?</p>
<p>Without it, software development would be *so* dull&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Grazr Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It&#8217;s all in the details</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer/comment-page-1/#comment-7553</link>
		<dc:creator>Grazr Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; It&#8217;s all in the details</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 06:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What I find interesting is the the current discussion surrounding this &#8216;river of news&#8217;. Some believe it&#8217;s a transformative technology, a real innovation, while others say it&#8217;s just rehashing and packaging old ideas. Some have taken the view that it&#8217;s not the technology but the conceptual model that&#8217;s important. There seems to be a lot of discussion on innovation, and in what dimensions this might be considered one. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What I find interesting is the the current discussion surrounding this &#8216;river of news&#8217;. Some believe it&#8217;s a transformative technology, a real innovation, while others say it&#8217;s just rehashing and packaging old ideas. Some have taken the view that it&#8217;s not the technology but the conceptual model that&#8217;s important. There seems to be a lot of discussion on innovation, and in what dimensions this might be considered one. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/08/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer/comment-page-1/#comment-7548</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Winer is completely re-inventing the wheel.  It&#039;s not a revolution just because you failed to notice it over the last decade, Dave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winer is completely re-inventing the wheel.  It&#8217;s not a revolution just because you failed to notice it over the last decade, Dave.</p>
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