Comments on: Should Intel eliminate my job? What value do I bring to the bottom line? http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/ Edge Case, Community Builder, Tinkerer, and Teacher Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:26:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Subservient Programmers | WebProNews http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-63212 Subservient Programmers | WebProNews Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:24:11 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-63212 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] the other hand, Josh Bancroft has attracted a troll from possibly inside his own company (Intel) who says that Josh should be forced to stop blogging for Intel and use his time for more [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] the other hand, Josh Bancroft has attracted a troll from possibly inside his own company (Intel) who says that Josh should be forced to stop blogging for Intel and use his time for more [...]

]]> By: Subservient programmers « Scobleizer http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-34089 Subservient programmers « Scobleizer Wed, 06 Jun 2007 05:40:52 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-34089 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] the other hand, Josh Bancroft has attracted a troll from possibly inside his own company (Intel) who says that Josh should be forced to stop blogging for Intel and use his time for more [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] the other hand, Josh Bancroft has attracted a troll from possibly inside his own company (Intel) who says that Josh should be forced to stop blogging for Intel and use his time for more [...]

]]> By: Subservient Programmers http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-27835 Subservient Programmers Thu, 05 Apr 2007 21:32:36 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-27835 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Or spin in his chair. Someone has too much time on their hands. On the other hand, Josh Bancroft has attracted a troll from possibly inside his own company (Intel) who says that Josh should be forced to stop blogging for Intel and use his time for more [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] Or spin in his chair. Someone has too much time on their hands. On the other hand, Josh Bancroft has attracted a troll from possibly inside his own company (Intel) who says that Josh should be forced to stop blogging for Intel and use his time for more [...]

]]> By: Chris http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-2318 Chris Tue, 23 May 2006 00:48:29 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-2318 Your job is, I am sure, important. However, from my experience they do not want to eliminate you because you or your job is unimportant, they was to cut you because of company politics, kissing ass and unhealthy environment at Intel. If I was you I would find myself a better company to work for, obviously you are too good to work there because you do your job and don't play the political and clickish game as the most do. Good luck and forget Intel :) Your job is, I am sure, important. However, from my experience they do not want to eliminate you because you or your job is unimportant, they was to cut you because of company politics, kissing ass and unhealthy environment at Intel. If I was you I would find myself a better company to work for, obviously you are too good to work there because you do your job and don’t play the political and clickish game as the most do.
Good luck and forget Intel :)

]]> By: David http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-1934 David Mon, 08 May 2006 06:32:57 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-1934 As a competitor employee, I am really interested in how your job improve the communication inside the organization. I am an open engineer and would like to share my experience with others. But frankly to say, I hate to repeat the same answers (explanations) time and time again to other colleagues. It just cost too much time! For G11's comment, it's a typical response from a boss who belongs to the dinosaur generation. I am quite glad that Intel still uses such kind of "tiny brain" animals. As a competitor employee, I am really interested in how your job improve the communication inside the organization. I am an open engineer and would like to share my experience with others. But frankly to say, I hate to repeat the same answers (explanations) time and time again to other colleagues. It just cost too much time!

For G11’s comment, it’s a typical response from a boss who belongs to the dinosaur generation. I am quite glad that Intel still uses such kind of “tiny brain” animals.

]]> By: David http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-1933 David Mon, 08 May 2006 06:32:36 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-1933 As a competitor employee, I am really interested in how your job improve the communication inside the organization. I am an open engineer and would like to share my experience with others. But frankly to say, I hate to repeat the same answers (explanations) time and time again to other colleagues. It just cost too much time! For G11's comment, it's a typical response from a boss who belongs to the dinosaur generation. I am quite glad that Intel still uses such kind of "little brain" animals. As a competitor employee, I am really interested in how your job improve the communication inside the organization. I am an open engineer and would like to share my experience with others. But frankly to say, I hate to repeat the same answers (explanations) time and time again to other colleagues. It just cost too much time!

For G11’s comment, it’s a typical response from a boss who belongs to the dinosaur generation. I am quite glad that Intel still uses such kind of “little brain” animals.

]]> By: RC Mullins http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-1928 RC Mullins Mon, 08 May 2006 01:38:30 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-1928 I really don't know what I could add to what has already been posted, however I found myself being moved by your piece and felt absolutely compelled to respond. I don't know who you are, and being that, I cannot be a judge of character for you. I don't know if we line up philosophically, politcally, or socio-economically. What I DO know, is that what you wrote had a great deal of resonance within me, and I appreciate your incredible honesty and forthcoming-ness. I am relatively new to the Web 2.0 and am trying very hard to catch up. It seems that I spend countless hours (my free time) devouring what I can. I am also the systems admin for a CMS at the University I work, and have found it diametrically opposed to the free and open bloggin system. I wish you luck sir, and maybe we will actually meet, and discuss our feats, woes, lost battles, and won wars. I really don’t know what I could add to what has already been posted, however I found myself being moved by your piece and felt absolutely compelled to respond. I don’t know who you are, and being that, I cannot be a judge of character for you. I don’t know if we line up philosophically, politcally, or socio-economically. What I DO know, is that what you wrote had a great deal of resonance within me, and I appreciate your incredible honesty and forthcoming-ness. I am relatively new to the Web 2.0 and am trying very hard to catch up. It seems that I spend countless hours (my free time) devouring what I can. I am also the systems admin for a CMS at the University I work, and have found it diametrically opposed to the free and open bloggin system.
I wish you luck sir, and maybe we will actually meet, and discuss our feats, woes, lost battles, and won wars.

]]> By: TinyScreenfuls.com » Blog Archive » What Value is Blogging redux (or: Dear Anonymous Grade 11 Manager) http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-1914 TinyScreenfuls.com » Blog Archive » What Value is Blogging redux (or: Dear Anonymous Grade 11 Manager) Sat, 06 May 2006 16:29:04 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-1914 [...] I’ve also gotten dozens of comments from others, some at Intel, and some not. For the most part, they’ve been supportive of employee blogging at big companies in general, and my blogging activities in particular. Some have disagreed with me, and sided with Grade 11. I thank all of you who have taken the time to weigh in with your opinions, and join the conversation. [...] [...] I’ve also gotten dozens of comments from others, some at Intel, and some not. For the most part, they’ve been supportive of employee blogging at big companies in general, and my blogging activities in particular. Some have disagreed with me, and sided with Grade 11. I thank all of you who have taken the time to weigh in with your opinions, and join the conversation. [...]

]]> By: Theo http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-1895 Theo Fri, 05 May 2006 17:54:17 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-1895 Though off-topic, I think this is very pertinent and at the very heart of Intels potential for the future "Intel should be insuring that there is no way I would ever do that, either by making processors that are so clearly better by way of performance that it would be worth it to me to spend the extra dough, or by making sure that they are not more expensive to buy in the first place." Rather than doing this we have been wielding political might to forge deals with OEMs and penetrating new markets. As those markets mature and the consumers are educated with having more choices the decision will be clear, equal performance vs. non-equal cost, a no brainer. Thankfully, also being mentioned was "Intel sits on the richest pile of intellectual property in the world" and it will be our insight and ability to effectively manage that in the new years to come that determines our effectiveness. Though off-topic, I think this is very pertinent and at the very heart of Intels potential for the future
“Intel should be insuring that there is no way I would ever do that, either by making processors that are so clearly better by way of performance that it would be worth it to me to spend the extra dough, or by making sure that they are not more expensive to buy in the first place.”

Rather than doing this we have been wielding political might to forge deals with OEMs and penetrating new markets. As those markets mature and the consumers are educated with having more choices the decision will be clear, equal performance vs. non-equal cost, a no brainer.

Thankfully, also being mentioned was “Intel sits on the richest pile of intellectual property in the world” and it will be our insight and ability to effectively manage that in the new years to come that determines our effectiveness.

]]> By: 10SioN http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-1890 10SioN Fri, 05 May 2006 15:15:13 +0000 http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com/2006/04/should-intel-eliminate-my-job-what-value-do-i-bring-to-the-bottom-line/#comment-1890 Hi, Myself have not been into any large corporations before, so not sure if my suggestions and comments does justify anything. Ah well .. here goes. 1. You're valuable despite anything that has been said before. All employees are assets for a corporation. As much as we realise that we're all disposable/replaceabl, but the spirit and efforts which you raised on your own account to work for your company is indeed valuable. There'll always be people who works just because of a typical life just to make his/her living. However there'll also be people who wants to work for the better of the company .. be a part of the company .. a huge entity working together to achieve a larger greatness. This we cannot always ignore. 2. Management by right should always form better allegiance with their employees and espacially the bottom liners. It's a big effort, but it's the best way for both worlds. However it highly depends on the culture and management style they adapted to. Correct? If you've worked in a small-time chinaman style business .. it's totally different than a large japanese corporate company .. as well as different to an all american large corporate company. Some asian companies find blogging or public outcry or publicly published information on any internal sections poses as possible thread to the company in a few ways a. internal security. information on companies management style and culture. b. sabotage of employees morals and unity. c. potentially used as internal political joust. d. possible affect on companies image and reputation in the market and to customers. To some of us this seems ridiculous, but you can't ignore the possibilities, hence the paranoia anyway. 3. What you can do is figure out if what INTEL has in mind is what the employees like you have in mind. IF in fact they are only interested in mindless drones .. it's definitely not your place. IF INTEL has in mind what a perfect unity + togetherness to achieve the largest dream, then yes .. by all means you should not leave just like that. Besides, you mentioned your immediate superior is ok with you on blogging as long as it doesn't impact your work. But find out if he says this because it's really because it doesn't impact your work and deadline? Or is it that he realises the importance of what you're doing? 4. Tools and gadgets you develop for your tasks should be measured on your performance. However it should be within corporate knowledge and acknowledgement as well. Your boss should be aware of the things you bring and use on your tasks. Ideally it should not be your costs alone. You're paid to "explore, develop, and evangelize collaboration tools for design engineers. Basically, to find ways to make the chip designers’ jobs easier and more efficient." What more of a better way then give out as much proposals as possible to enhance fellow employees lifestyle at work and such? I don't see a problem with this one where you should not fork out your own wallet for these reasons. IF you do still intend to fork it out .. there should be no regrets nor complaints in the first place. Correct? Anyway usually the reason why people post on some topic like yours is that you needed assurance on a choice which you probably made already :) Whichever path you take, so as long as theres no regrets .. by all means go ahead with it with all you got all the way till the end. :) *hopes opinion from a small time employee like me in an asian country gives some insights* Cheers Hi,

Myself have not been into any large corporations before, so not sure if my suggestions and comments does justify anything. Ah well .. here goes.

1. You’re valuable despite anything that has been said before. All employees are assets for a corporation. As much as we realise that we’re all disposable/replaceabl, but the spirit and efforts which you raised on your own account to work for your company is indeed valuable.

There’ll always be people who works just because of a typical life just to make his/her living. However there’ll also be people who wants to work for the better of the company .. be a part of the company .. a huge entity working together to achieve a larger greatness. This we cannot always ignore.

2. Management by right should always form better allegiance with their employees and espacially the bottom liners. It’s a big effort, but it’s the best way for both worlds.

However it highly depends on the culture and management style they adapted to. Correct? If you’ve worked in a small-time chinaman style business .. it’s totally different than a large japanese corporate company .. as well as different to an all american large corporate company.

Some asian companies find blogging or public outcry or publicly published information on any internal sections poses as possible thread to the company in a few ways
a. internal security. information on companies management style and culture.
b. sabotage of employees morals and unity.
c. potentially used as internal political joust.
d. possible affect on companies image and reputation in the market and to customers.

To some of us this seems ridiculous, but you can’t ignore the possibilities, hence the paranoia anyway.

3. What you can do is figure out if what INTEL has in mind is what the employees like you have in mind. IF in fact they are only interested in mindless drones .. it’s definitely not your place.

IF INTEL has in mind what a perfect unity + togetherness to achieve the largest dream, then yes .. by all means you should not leave just like that. Besides, you mentioned your immediate superior is ok with you on blogging as long as it doesn’t impact your work. But find out if he says this because it’s really because it doesn’t impact your work and deadline? Or is it that he realises the importance of what you’re doing?

4. Tools and gadgets you develop for your tasks should be measured on your performance. However it should be within corporate knowledge and acknowledgement as well. Your boss should be aware of the things you bring and use on your tasks. Ideally it should not be your costs alone. You’re paid to “explore, develop, and evangelize collaboration tools for design engineers. Basically, to find ways to make the chip designers’ jobs easier and more efficient.”

What more of a better way then give out as much proposals as possible to enhance fellow employees lifestyle at work and such? I don’t see a problem with this one where you should not fork out your own wallet for these reasons. IF you do still intend to fork it out .. there should be no regrets nor complaints in the first place. Correct?

Anyway usually the reason why people post on some topic like yours is that you needed assurance on a choice which you probably made already :)

Whichever path you take, so as long as theres no regrets .. by all means go ahead with it with all you got all the way till the end. :)

*hopes opinion from a small time employee like me in an asian country gives some insights*

Cheers

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